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previously #alpinelinux core a few moons ago and #debian much longer ago

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@boob @HarneyBA @dee @sjw @velartrill

well, you see it from the end-user perspective.

from the admin perspective, it is largely "why is postgresql pegging CPU again today? why are queries falling over again?"

and from the dev perspective, it is largely "maybe if we add emoji reactions, we can get users"

when i was running instances, i deployed a shared postgresql for them that had 256GB of RAM allocated for cache. that made Pleroma fast, but it's not realistic.

@velartrill @HarneyBA @boob @dee @sjw

that is literally what i am building. also, the ability to make channels and identity portable (kind of like fedi, but done right).

@sjw @velartrill @HarneyBA @boob @dee

there are ways to integrate IRC and push messaging. that's something the IRCv3 group has unfortunately not spent much time working on, but it's possible

@velartrill @HarneyBA @boob @dee @sjw

ironically, the thing i am working on uses IRC as the signalling, providing a discovery layer for web services (like WebRTC) on top for the things IRC is bad at.

@boob @HarneyBA @dee @sjw @velartrill

the problem is that the majority of dev effort is focused on new features, and not fixing bugs.

@boob @HarneyBA @dee @sjw @velartrill

which would you rather have:

- a chat feature

- actual bugs in Pleroma fixed (like the fact that Pleroma suddenly forgets when random people are following you, slow timeline building, slow tag fetching, ...)

@hj @HarneyBA @dee @sjw @velartrill

do yourself a favor and push against the mastodon E2EE feature then. message franking is a disaster.

@sjw @HarneyBA @dee @velartrill

that's kinda sorta what i am working on these days instead of Pleroma. but we are in very early days yet of that.

@sjw @HarneyBA @dee @velartrill

that would be difficult to achieve because of the way tags are indexed in Pleroma. "everything is JSONB" sounds great until you have to actually deal with stuff like tags.

they could split tags out into a separate ARRAY column, but that would involve a heavy migration.

@sjw @HarneyBA @dee @velartrill

we can see this line of thinking with the new ChatMessage feature. they have hyped it up, but the reality is, nobody cares because folks are using a dedicated platform outside fedi for their messaging needs.

@velartrill @HarneyBA @dee @sjw

yes that is a large part of it, too. and he is doing this using things i worked on. but from a project level view, that is a sufficient summary.

@sjw @HarneyBA @dee @velartrill

i explained that in a second post.

this has nothing to do with Gleason himself, but instead a significant portion of the dev and admin community not wanting to interact with him because of his views.

the reason I left really is lain and feld making all decisions without consideration of what the community at large wants.

Pleroma's current direction of pursuing features in the name of user growth without asking anyone if they actually want those features is another example of what the problem ultimately is.

and that is caused by the same line of thinking as "hey, lets work with this controversial dude that a ton of admins in our community don't want to work with, because he can get us users!"

@velartrill @HarneyBA @dee

like, the alt-right people who use this platform asked recently "if i find out twitter employs TERFs, will I stop using it"

what they don't understand is this has nothing to actually do with Gleason; this has to do with lain refusing to show solidarity with the community he created. it was very clear that many of the original contributors were not enthusiastic about having Gleason involved at all. but lain and feld chose user growth over solidarity. and that's the *actual* problem.

and it's not just that.

there has been a pattern of choosing user growth over what the devs actually wanted to do for a long time. look at the pressure they put on HJ to shoehorn stupid shit into Pleroma FE (which admittedly I helped with, but looking back on it, I regret doing so). features and design should bubble up from the community, not trickle down from management.

@velartrill @HarneyBA @dee

i mean, there are certainly people on the fedi i would like to keep interacting with.

but i'm pretty sure that i'm not interested in being an admin or dev ever again.

thing is, lain and feld want user growth at any cost, and that cost includes alienating the people who first started using Pleroma. that's fine, I guess, and it's not like I disagree with much of what Gleason wants to do.

but the problem is that whenever I use a Pleroma instance, I think about all the meta shit, Gleason worming his way into the project included. and, so that's why I generally avoid interacting around here.

maybe, someday, i will install Honk or something.

@dee @HarneyBA but if i start to use the fediverse in significant quantity in future, it will certainly not be as an admin. i'm not going to ever be involved in this trainwreck as a dev or admin ever again. whether or not i use the fediverse then ultimately comes down to what the majority of my friends want to do -- they got fedi fatigue and went back to twitter.

@dee @HarneyBA

well, i am still here, technically. just lurking.

really the main reason i left is because 90% of my interactions became meta bullshit, and having to be associated by proxy with gleason/spinster/etc due to being a pleroma dev was not pleasant for me -- basically gleason was the final cherry on an entire pile of shit.

as for the fediverse verses twitter -- twitter has a "low quality interaction" filter built into the platform which for the most part means that snipey concern trolls don't even make it to my mentions.

Pleroma sort of has that (I designed it), but the problem is that the concern trolls here can get traction, leading to instance admins doing instance blocks, etc, so you can't get around the meta bullshit if you're an admin. because of *that* type of fuckery, most of my friends have gone back to posting on twitter anyway.

and, because i was *previously* an admin, and because the concern trolls warped whatever bullshit about me into whatever, i feel i am largely a liability to any other instance. so, it's just best for me to lurk, if anything.

@mishari I'm at @kaniini now

@toast i'm aware. i'm also now aware that FSE apparently uses Mastodon-style blocks, as I received one from them.

@fluffy @toast I do want you around, and I am sorry for my knee-jerk reaction earlier.

oh for fucks sake I am posting here again

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